VLC wants to be fabulous
To my amusement, a VLC 0.9.2 promotional video is using our Code Geass R2 opening karaoke to show off some softsub capabilities. They’ve implemented libass and our pretty butterflies, FABULOUS colors, karaoke fills, and lolrotations work. But it looks like the fading sucks or the video is laggy as fuck. I’m wondering if they used our Geass R2 specifically because it’s us, or because of the overrides we used in the opening? 
If you were around during season 1 of Geass with gg, you might remember that two of our episodes (15 and 16) had .ass code which exploited VLC’s poor softsub rendering. That script was, as I recall it, me and silverfire being assholes with an mIRC .ass garbage generator script. In .ass, comments are made using {} for brackets, and VLC breaks those. This caused people to go on their forums and complain due to the popularity of Geass and us being the main group subbing it at that time. See this thread and this thread. One of their dev’s even ventured into our IRC room and was talking to amz about implementing superior softsub support.
(PS: VLC is still shitty for technical reasons that few people care about!)
(PS2: VLC really sucks.)
Tags: Fansub Faggotry
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September 16, 2008 11:42 pm
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SkyFuser (September 17, 2008 @ 12:10 am)
Karaoke on VLC looks fine to me. Youtube quality is still being raped by sandpaper. Deserts.
I lol’d at the developer going on IRC :O
And uhh mind explaining why VLC is still shitty? Although I have never doubted that…
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miasmacloud (September 17, 2008 @ 12:16 am)
For our DVD releases with THORA, we use fancy magic .mkv chapters for the op/ed, and I hear those don’t work with the parser used in 0.9. :o
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SkyFuser (September 17, 2008 @ 12:26 am)
You’re right. It goes right back to the beginning of the chapter-.-
Plus, it looks like VLC doesn’t support ordered chapters at all. Fail <_< Thanks for info :D
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風の谷の名無しさん (September 17, 2008 @ 4:21 am)
Pretty much nobody supports ordered chapters, and nobody should be using them, either. That’s just pointless technical wankery that makes trouble for everyone for no real gain.
TheFluff (September 17, 2008 @ 6:09 pm)
get out, the door is —-> that way
FlyTaggart (September 17, 2008 @ 1:07 am)
Im still using vlc, because its the only player which has a good doublespeed function. Only for avi and mp4 but still better as any other.
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風の谷の名無しさん (September 17, 2008 @ 4:22 am)
There’s nothing really technical about why VLC sucks: It just simply has an UTTERLY HORRIBLE USER INTERFACE.
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Cat Megex (September 17, 2008 @ 12:27 pm)
In response to the following other post of yours (because the Reply feature only seems to work for three replies):
I find ordered chapters to be quite useful for saving a bit of space, at least in those situations where certain chapters are saved in other files such as when you have an anime with an OP and ED that remain the same for a fair amount of episodes and so store one copy each of the OP and ED that all episodes that have said OP and ED would link to. Unless I’m getting confused and “ordered chapters” simply refers to adding timecodes with attributed titles to the MKV (using the Chapter Editor tool in the mkvmerge GUI, or whatever the mkvmerge command-line, well, command is) so that someone who is watching whatever is in the MKV file can go to specific predefined points in the video.
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風の谷の名無しさん (September 17, 2008 @ 1:37 pm)
NOBODY needs to save space measured in hundreds of megabytes these days. That doesn’t even register.
What does register, however, is that pretty much only Windows DirectShow-based players actually support them, and everybody else will be left without opening and ending, and that you now suddenly can’t rename files to remove the fansubber noise (underscores, CRC tags, group tags, bad capitalization), and you have to keep files grouped together in the same place and can’t move them around freely any longer.
And of course the fact that something like 90% of your audience doesn’t actually know they can’t do this and have to do that, so they think you just removed the opening and ending and hate you for it.
Really, the space saving is nothing compared to the trouble you cause by using this.
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miasmacloud (September 17, 2008 @ 2:13 pm)
Segment ID’s are brilliant because I don’t have to lift a finger to skip op/ed’s I don’t like~
風の谷の名無しさん (September 17, 2008 @ 2:43 pm)
Right, those I don’t mind even though I don’t use them, because they don’t break stuff for people. “Ordered chapters” sounds like it’s those things, but it’s when you link in external files, like Formula did with their Shugo Chara releases.
miasmacloud (September 17, 2008 @ 2:56 pm)
Segments can use ordered chapters to make a kawaii timeline from all of the other mkv segment’s you stack inside of it, dohohoho.
I don’t really mind external shit and I think that people suffering with them is hilarious. :D!
風の谷の名無しさん (September 17, 2008 @ 5:43 pm)
Of course, if you enjoy annoying people, the valuations all shift.
TheFluff (September 17, 2008 @ 6:11 pm)
you’re pretty dumb, if you’re going to criticize the feature using technical arguments you should at least try to get them right.
(hint: segment linking has nothing to do with filenames, at all)
TheFluff (September 17, 2008 @ 6:15 pm)
(hint 2: there is a patch for mplayer that makes it support ordered chapters and segment linking)
a3wrafsdf (September 17, 2008 @ 6:34 am)
i’m amazed that there’s a file format in usage called .ass
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Sherman, the Ramni (September 17, 2008 @ 11:01 am)
Tried with Eclipse’s CG and other soft-subbed anime. 1280*720 playback is kinda laggy (but that’s fault of my Sempron 1.6 GHz), and sometimes subs appear left-justified, or fatter fonts or incorrect chapters navigation. SD animu looks and plays right, though.
But, well, it’s a BIG step in the right direction. Just a bit more and VLC will be the perfect solution for animu.
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linkinstreet (September 17, 2008 @ 7:07 pm)
VLC will always remains sucky. MPC + DirectVobSub FTW!!!!
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ShiChelle (September 18, 2008 @ 12:42 pm)
Oh, good, they’re actually improving VLC(I’ll still use CCCP+MPC or KMPlayer, though). I don’t know about the lag, it may be their computer. My desktop is five years old with only new mouse and keyboard(dying and spillage, respectively), and even with MPC or KMPlayer being the only application open, 1280×720 video or higher will lag during OP/ED from the karaoke or when there are a lot of particle effects(my computer essentially skips the Geass R2 eyecatch because of the flying particle shit; also, during the ED of Buttfu-Antique Bakery). Also, you will not believe the lag I had trying to watch your 1080p picture drama release. The audio was at the very end of the video, but the picture was still at the middle point of the video. Pretty pictures are nice, but my poor ol’ grandma of a computer is struggling to keep up. ;_; (Oh well, my new laptop can play higher-res stuff decently.)
Oh my god, why did I type that all out, no one cares… @_@ tl;dr
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